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184: What I’d Learn Instead of Data Science in 2026

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I wouldn't try to become a data analyst next here. Here's 4 reasons why and what I'd do instead.

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⌚ TIMESTAMPS

00:32 - Reason 1 not to be data scientist

03:22 - Reason 2 not to be data scientist

04:55 - Reason 3 not to be data scientist

07:33 - Reason 4 not to be data scientist

11:28 - What to do instead

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Speaker:

If you're starting from absolute

scratch, I don't think you

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should be a data scientist.

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At least not yet.

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And let me explain why not,

and what I would do instead.

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Now I wanna make it very clear.

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I don't think data science is dead at all.

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Like you might see a

lot of YouTubers saying.

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I don't think it's dead in the least.

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I freaking love data science and I

think it's gonna continue to thrive,

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but at the current moment, I do think

there's a better path for you to

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take if you ultimately wanna become

a data scientist down the road.

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So let's first get into the reasons why

not to be a data scientist right now.

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Reason number one is it takes a

long time to learn data science and

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ultimately become a data scientist.

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And basically, in order to be a data

scientist, you have to do two things.

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Number one, you have to know some math.

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And number two, you have to be able

to do that math with programming.

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And unfortunately.

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Just the way it is.

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Math is pretty hard to learn.

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It is not easy to learn.

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And knowing things like calculus,

linear algebra obviously are important

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to do things like machine learning.

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But even if you, let's just say you ignore

linear algebra and calculus because it

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makes your job as data scientist better.

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You're a better data scientist

if you know those things.

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But it's not a necessity.

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Like everyone makes it out to

seem , it's helpful, but it's not

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like you need a hundred percent to

understand those and know those.

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A million percent.

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Even just ignoring all of that,

the algorithms, the logic behind

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the algorithms is pretty tricky.

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And it takes like, uh, a lot of

patience and understanding and a

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lot of like math logic to get these

machine learning algorithms down.

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And as a data scientist, that's like

your number one job is to be, you know,

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using and creating these machine learning

algorithms to do data science stuff,

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to predict stuff, to classify stuff.

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So you're gonna be needing to know

mathematics, which just takes a

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while to, to learn, to be honest.

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And once you even figure out the math

and you can use the machine learning

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algorithms, you have to be able to

use them pretty much via programming.

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There are some data scientists

jobs out there that probably use.

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Less programming than you might think.

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They use tools that kind of do

the programming for them, but I

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think that's few and far between.

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I think that's where knowing like R or

Python comes in, those are pretty much

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the two programming languages that you're

going to be using as a data scientist.

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To do machine learning.

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And unfortunately,

programming is also hard.

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It takes a long time to learn.

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If you've never programmed at all

or you've only done a little bit of

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programming, it's a lot of effort to

learn programming from absolute scratch.

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You're gonna have to learn about

variables, you're gonna have to

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learn about functions, you're

gonna have to learn about loops.

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You're gonna have to learn about like.

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Classes and, uh, I'll have parameters

and arguments and a bunch of other things

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that I'm probably forgetting right now.

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The point is there's actually a lot to

learn when it comes to programming and it

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doesn't really come naturally to everyone.

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Uh, it is definitely a learned skill

that takes patients in years to master.

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Um, so if you're starting from absolute

scratch and you're like not a math

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whiz, and you're not like a programming

expert, going from zero to data scientist

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is gonna take a long time because

before you're gonna be qualified.

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To land data scientist roles,

you're gonna have to get Okay.

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At the math and okay.

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At programming.

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And don't get me wrong, I love math.

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I love programming.

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If you're loving it, then maybe

it is something to pursue.

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, But I think I still think there's

a better path to get there.

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We'll talk about that here in a second.

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Um, but just know that like it's really

hard to lend a data science job to even

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be qualified to land a data science job

right now because the amount of math and

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the amount of programming is quite high.

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The number two reason that you

maybe shouldn't be a data scientist

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right now is it honestly requires

a little bit of like bons.

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I don't even know if I'm using that

word correctly, but like you need

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some, not certifications, but honestly

it's seeming like when you're applying

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data scientist jobs, most of them

are saying master's in data science.

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Now I haven't actually analyzed that

statistically, , but that's just kinda

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what I've been seeing anecdotally.

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Um, and once again.

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Masters.

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It's gonna take a long time to get.

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Uh, the good news is you probably will

learn some of the programming, some of

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the math that I talked about earlier, but

it's just gonna take a freaking long time.

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We're talking like probably two years

to get a master's in data science.

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I guess maybe if you're doing it full

time, maybe it would only take one year.

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but one, it's just taking

a long time, right?

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We're talking years, not months here.

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And two, it's also gonna

be expensive, right?

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Because masters are not cheap.

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I think the cheapest that you

can get, like a master's in data

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science is like probably, yeah.

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$13,000, if I'm gonna be honest.

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I got my master's in data

analytics from Georgia Tech.

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I have a review on it if you

want to check it out sometime.

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It costs me about $13,000

and I think that's about the

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cheapest that you could go.

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So you.

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Kind of need a master's.

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If you're gonna try to be a data

scientist at, at least you have

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a lot better shot because it is

kind of listed as a requirement.

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I don't think it is a

requirement necessarily.

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I think you could land a data scientist

job without a master's degree, but I

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think it's honestly gonna be pretty hard.

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So unless you're wanting to spend like

two years, unless just say like, on

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average $20,000 in student loans maybe

you shouldn't be a data scientist.

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Reason number three that maybe you

should avoid the data scientist role

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right now is there's actually a lot

more openings in different data roles.

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And let me explain.

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So if you wanna do this experiment,

you can, you know, uh, I did

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this experiment and I'll tell

you the results here in a second.

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But there's actually more data

engineering jobs open right now

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than there are data scientist jobs.

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Um, not by a lot about.

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10% more.

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And there's actually double data

analyst jobs open than there are

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data scientist roles open right now.

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And that's in the US

and I, I used LinkedIn.

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You can go to LinkedIn and go

to the search bar and you can

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type in data analyst or data

scientist and I did United States.

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So it might be different if

you're in a different country.

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Um, and it shows you the number of

results and I think the results for.

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Data scientist was 8,000,

data engineer was 9,000 and

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data analyst was like 17,000.

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So data scientist has like the

lowest amount of openings right

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now, and I'll talk about why.

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I think that's the case here in a second.

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Data engineering has a little bit more.

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But there's also, a lot less

barrier to entry for data engineer

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and for a data analyst as well.

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Data engineering, it requires a lot of

programming and a lot of logic, a little

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bit less math, and you're not doing as

much like machine learning necessarily,

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but honestly, probably more programming.

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So if you are kind of a programmer,

maybe that's the route you wanna go.

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Because there is more job openings right

now and there's not master's degrees.

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Like there's not really a ton of data

engineering master's degrees out.

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This degree doesn't even really exist yet.

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So that's.

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That's nice, right?

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'cause when there's a degree that

doesn't exist, you don't have

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to have it to land the roles.

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And uh, I think data engineering is

kind of exploding with AI recently

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because AI really, at the core of

it, at, I guess at the beginning

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is a data engineering problem.

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'cause it's lot of data.

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You wanna basically feed these

models and it's a lot of unstructured

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data, so it's like, how do we best

structure the unstructured data?

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Um, so data engineering roles

are, are getting more popular.

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They don't require like a master's

degree, but there is a lot of programming.

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I don't wanna make it seem like

it is a lot, it is easy to land a

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data engineering job because it's.

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But I do think it is easier to

land a data engineering job right

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now than it is a data scientist.

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Easier than both of those, I

think is a data analyst role.

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One, there's a lot more

roles open right now, right?

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About double, , and two, like the

barrier to entry is so much lower.

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You don't have to know nearly as

much programming and you don't

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have to know nearly as much math.

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So you're able to land a

role a lot more quickly.

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And that's like huge.

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So spoiler alert, that is my

whole pitch to you is like, Hey.

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Put becoming a data scientist on the

shelf for just a little bit, become a data

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analyst first, and then pivot into that.

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We'll talk about that here in a second.

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the fourth reason you should maybe

consider not being a data scientist

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right now is I do think the data

scientist jobs are at least stagnant.

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I don't think they're down necessarily.

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But data science, It takes

longer to make a business impact.

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And what I mean by that is if you're

a business and you're looking to

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make money right now, you're looking

for profits today data science is

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much more of an investment than data

analytics and data engineering, data

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engineering is a really good investment

for companies right now because.

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You can't really do data analytics or data

science without good data engineering.

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You can't really do much with

data if you don't have good data

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engineering, because it's like how do

the data scientists access the data?

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How do they know that it's clean?

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So businesses investing in data

engineering, it makes a lot of sense

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right now because you can't even really

get much return on investment spent

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in data until you have data, right?

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And data engineering's all about

having data and storing it.

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Properly and effectively.

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Once you have that data stored right,

and, and everything's all set up,

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that's when you can start doing

data science or data analytics.

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I differentiate those between data

science is Looking more towards the

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future, like predicting stuff, right?

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And data analytics, looking more towards

the past and saying what happened.

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Um, so data analytics is like

more reporting, like this is what

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happened in the past type of thing.

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Data science being this is

what will happen in the future

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or, or predicting some sort of

behavior or something like that.

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It's just a lot easier

to do data analytics.

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It's like so much easier to do, uh, data

analytics than it is data science and

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you can get those results a lot quicker.

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Like I can make a report on what

happened in the past and probably what

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a fourth of the time is that's gonna

gonna take me to predict the future.

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And as someone who's been a data analyst.

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And a data scientist, I just know, doing

the data science work takes longer,

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'cause once again, it's more complex.

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You're doing more programming

you're, you're doing more math.

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It's a harder problem to solve.

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And so it just takes longer

for the businesses to actually

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see the fruits of their labor.

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Versus a data analyst, you

can almost see the results.

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Kind of immediately.

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So I, I think you'll have more

business impact as a data analyst

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'cause the results are very clear.

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And I think as a data scientist, I

think some of their, these long-term

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projects, a lot of these long-term

projects in data science fail too.

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Like, I worked as a data

scientist for ExxonMobil.

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Uh, I worked on let's see, I don't

know, like four big initiatives.

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And I would say half of them

probably failed, if I'm being honest.

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I don't know that for a fact.

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I kind of left before some of

those, Products were finished.

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One of them that was even

considered a success.

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Like it wasn't even really being

implemented or used I basically

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built that project in what,

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It was like everyone really liked it.

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They're like, this is awesome.

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But I don't really think we had

very many users of the tool.

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So I don't know if you even count that

as success or not, but my point here

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is like looking at that, that was two

and a half years to even get to the

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point where, oh, we think this is gonna

be a success, but it hasn't been yet.

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So I hope that gives you a little

bit of an idea of how long it might

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take to actually impact the business.

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And I think when you're

impacting business one.

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You get promoted more often, you

get raises, those types of things,

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you get more clout, I guess.

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Uh, but two more roles of

those types of roles open up.

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And I just think that the, the return

on investment for data scientists

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right now might be a little bit fuzzy.

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Now, that's not true for every company.

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Like a lot of companies make their

money with data science work and

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they have already have a really good

data engineering infrastructure.

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That might be some of the bigger

tech companies that like are.

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Bajillionaire, right?

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Like those types of companies, they

still probably make their, their

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money with, with data science,

I think it's very valuable.

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, Like social media apps like Instagram,

Facebook, those types of things.

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But I think a lot of smaller operations,

they might be getting a little bit

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tight on data scientists because

the return on investment, it's high

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risk, high reward, I guess, uh, data

engineering and data analysts, it's,

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it's a lot more sure of an investment.

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So I think that might be one

of the reasons why you should

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actually consider these roles.

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I think you should become a data

analyst because like I said earlier.

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It's easy, it's easy to learn.

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There's a lower barrier to entry

and there's a lot more roles open.

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And my whole philosophy is I think you

should become a data scientist someday

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if you want to be a hundred percent.

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But the cool thing is this data

analyst role is kind of like a

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gateway role where the, the, the

fence is not hard to get over.

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The barrier is not hard.

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You can get in this data analyst role.

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Pretty easily.

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I have a whole roadmap on how to

actually become a data analyst.

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Um, you can watch that on YouTube, uh, up

here in the card, or if you're listening

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to the podcast via audio, I'll have it

a link in the show notes down below.

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That'll kind of explain everything

that you need to do step by step.

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But my whole point is like

you can become a data analyst.

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And then you can get paid to become

a data scientist down the road.

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Because that's, that's also true.

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Companies will pay you to learn.

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I actually have another video

about like my old philosophy of

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like how to get paid to learn.

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I'll have it right here on a YouTube

card or in the show notes down below.

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Um, but just like the

short of it is this, that.

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Once you're in a company, they're

going to invest in you to learn things.

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You're gonna have access to

like free LinkedIn learning.

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You're gonna have access

to like go to conferences.

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Uh, a lot of these companies will

even pay for a master's degree.

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I know I have some students in

my accelerator bootcamp who.

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I've worked with

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I actually interviewed them both,

so I'll pop them up in, in cards

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up here and have their, their

links in the show notes down below.

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Um, but one was a math teacher

and one was in quality assurance,

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and I helped them both pivot into

like more data analyst roles.

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And now their companies are

paying for them to go get a

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data science master's degree.

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And I think that's awesome

because now instead of.

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You know, going into debt $20,000

to become a data scientist,

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you already have a data job.

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You have income coming in, data income,

you know, data analysts get paid well.

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It's not like it's a, a crappy,

uh, salary and they can get paid to

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learn on the job and have school.

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Paid for by the company.

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So I think that is like a win, win win.

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I think that is the route

that you should take.

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So I'm not saying data science is dead.

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I'm not saying don't

become a data scientist.

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I'm just saying if you want to become

a data scientist, I think you should

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become a data analyst first, then learn

to become a data scientist on the job.

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You can learn Python on the job, you

can learn machine learning on the job.

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And that way you're

getting income coming in.

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While you're learning, because I can't

tell you how many people have come to me.

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Hey, Avery, I have a

master's in data science.

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I can't land a job.

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It's so much easier once you

already have some sort of a data

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job and a current data job too.

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You can watch this video if you're

watching on YouTube next, that

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will help you learn to get started.

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Check out the show notes if

you're listening on the podcast.

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Thank you guys for listening, and

uh, I'll see you in the next episode.

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Avery Smith is the host of The Data Career Podcast & founder of Data Career Jumpstart, an online platform dedicated to helping individuals transition into and advance within the data analytics field. After studying chemical engineering in college, Avery pivoted his career into data, and later earned a Masters in Data Analytics from Georgia Tech. He’s worked as a data analyst, data engineer, and data scientist for companies like Vaporsens, ExxonMobil, Harley Davidson, MIT, and the Utah Jazz. Avery lives in the mountains of Utah where he enjoys running, skiing, & hiking with his wife, dog, and new born baby.