Episode 150

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4th Mar 2025

150: 9 Huge LIES About Becoming a Data Analyst Nobody Talks About

In this episode, I uncover the nine biggest LIES about landing a data job. Maybe what's stopping you from pursuing a data career is just a big lie.

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00:05 You Need a Computer Science or Math Degree

01:20 You Have to Be Good at Math and Statistics

03:00 You Must Know Everything About Data Analytics

04:27 Certifications Matter

05:35 Skills Are Enough

07:20 AI Will Take Your Job

09:24 You'll Spend 80% of Your Time Cleaning Data

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11:44 There Are Lots of Remote Jobs

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Here are the nine biggest lies about landing a data job

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that are being told this year.

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Lie number one, you need a

computer science or a math degree.

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There's lots of people and organizations

that will tell you that in order to land

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a data job, you need to have studied

computer science, math, or economics

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in college, but that's not the case.

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Take me for example.

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I studied chemical engineering

and became a data analyst and

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then became a data scientist.

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But even then, chemical

engineering is pretty technical.

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There's a lot of people who

have less technical degrees

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than chemical engineering who

have landed into the data world.

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For example, I've interviewed

a lot of them on this channel.

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We had Alex Sanchez who was a high school

math teacher and he pivoted into data.

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We had Aaron Sheena who was a music

therapist who landed a financial

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data analyst job at Humana.

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We had Rachel Finch who studied biology

and now has a business intelligence job.

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And then there was Trevor Maxwell

who doesn't even have a college

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degree and ended up landing

a technical data analyst job.

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You don't need a computer science

degree and you don't need a math degree.

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Whatever degree you have

now is probably good enough.

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And if you don't have any college

degree, you can probably do it as well.

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It's just a little bit

more of an uphill battle.

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I have a whole YouTube playlist

where I talk to people who land

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jobs without college degrees.

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I'll have that in the

show notes down below.

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Truth be told, you don't need a computer

science degree and you don't need a math

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degree to break into data analytics.

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Lie number two that they tell

you is that you have to be

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good at math and statistics.

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And honestly, you don't really

have to be good at either.

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Now I am going to caveat here

and say if you want to be like

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a deep research data scientist.

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You probably want to be a little

bit good at math, but for the rest

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of you guys who just want like a

normal data analyst job, you honestly

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don't have to be that good at math.

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Like honestly, most of my students,

when they actually land a data

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job, the math that they're really

doing is mostly aggregations.

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That's like some average max min.

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This stuff isn't complicated.

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You honestly probably learned

most of it in high school.

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You may have forgotten now, but honestly,

it's kind of like riding a bike.

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Once you review it, you'll be

able to catch up very quickly.

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Now, I can already hear all of you

people commenting and being like,

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well, isn't statistics important?

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There's statistics in data analytics.

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And sure, there's definitely some

statistics in data analytics, but I

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think most people overblow the amount

of statistics you have to know.

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In fact, a lot of programs like data

analytics master's degrees will say

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that you're supposed to know calculus

and linear algebra in order to even

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like, Start the program, and that's

just a flat out lie, like the amount

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of calculus and linear algebra that I

use as a data analyst is very minimal.

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Can those concepts potentially help you?

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Sure, but it's not worth the

amount of time that it takes to

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actually learn all that stuff.

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It's not worth it.

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Like you're not really going to benefit

the return on investment, the ROI.

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Is not very high.

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Of course, there's things like AB

testing, hypothesis testing and

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regression that are going to be

useful for a lot of data analysts.

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But honestly, that stuff's

not super hard to learn.

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And the majority of the time,

like you're not doing the math,

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the computer's doing the math.

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So as long as you know what a hypothesis.

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test is and how to set it up and how

to interpret the results, you're good.

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And honestly, I think you can

learn that in one to two weeks.

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Lie number three is that you have to

know everything about data analytics

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in order to land a data jump.

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That you have to know Python, you

have to know Excel, you have to know

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SQL, you have to know Tableau, you

have to know Looker, you have to know

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Power BI, you have to know SAS, you

have to know R, you have to know Java.

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So on and so forth,

and it's just not true.

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Honestly, you don't have to even know

that much to be a data analyst, and

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maybe just one of those skills is enough.

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For example, I interviewed Matt Bratton

on my podcast a while ago, and he is

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like in the C suite of the data world,

and he basically only uses Excel.

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I've interviewed different

people on my podcast.

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And sometimes they only use

Tableau or they only use SQL.

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It really just depends.

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So sometimes you only have to know one

data skill throughout your whole career.

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Now saying your whole data career,

that's a little bit dramatic.

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Like you will probably use multiple

skills throughout your career.

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But when you land that first job,

like really a lot of the time, you're

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using one to two data tools, max.

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That being said, it's like, well, how do

I know which one to two that those are?

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And you really don't.

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And it's going to change from job to job.

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But here's what I will tell you

that Python is only required 30

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percent of the time for all data

analyst jobs from junior to senior.

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So personally, I don't really think

it's worth learning to be able to

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apply to those extra 30 percent of the

jobs when you're just getting started.

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I did an episode about this previously.

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You can see it right here and I'll

have a link to it in the show notes

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where I really don't think you should

start with Python or R to be honest.

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The lie is that you

have to know everything.

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And the truth is you don't,

you can get started today.

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And honestly, you can probably land

a job pretty soon with The skills

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you have already line number three

is that certifications matter.

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I don't care if it's the IBM certificate,

the power BI certificates, the

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Google data analytics certificate.

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The truth is for the majority of

data jobs, your cert does not matter.

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I know that might hurt to hear, and

you might not want to believe me, but I

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actually run my own job board, find a job.

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com.

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And I analyze the 2000 plus jobs that

I've posted on there the last four months.

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And not once did any of

the jobs posted on there.

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Ask for any sort of certificate.

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I know like the badges look cool

and like the certificate looks cool.

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The truth is no one really cares.

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At least employers don't really care.

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I have a lot of people who message

me and they'll say, Hey, Avery,

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I don't need your bootcamp.

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I'm already data analyst certified.

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And that is like the biggest

lie that you could ever say.

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And I understand that someone did.

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Certify you as a data analyst, but

there's nothing in the industry that's

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standardized that makes you data analyst

certified It's not like a nurse or a

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teacher where like you have a license.

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That's the wild west out here in the data

world We don't care about that stuff.

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So having a certificate.

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It's not a bad thing necessarily But it's

not like all that you might think it is.

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It's not your golden ticket into the

data world It takes a lot more than

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that and that leads me to my next lie

lie Number four is that skills are

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enough now you think that like If you

want to be data analyst, you have to

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learn these X amount of things, and then

you can become a data analyst, right?

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Wrong.

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Skills aren't enough when you're

trying to land a data analyst

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position for multiple reasons.

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One, as data analyst, like you're

actually not just spending your whole

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time using those technical skills.

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Like you're not just in Excel all day.

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One of the most important things you'll be

doing as a data analyst is communicating,

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is working with stakeholders.

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Is talking to teams and leaders and

understanding, you know, what the data

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is, where the data is at, what, how

you should analyze it, what's important

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for them to know, so on and so forth.

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But two, anytime you're trying to

land a data job, it's not the most

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skilled person who lands the job.

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Like think about it.

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I'm down here in my office.

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If I spent the next 240 years of my

life just studying data analytics,

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but I didn't have a resume, would

I land many data analytics jobs?

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Probably not because it takes

more than just your skills.

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There's a whole variety of things

that will actually help you get hired.

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I create a little mnemonic

for you to remember.

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It's called the SPN method, and

it's the easiest and fastest

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way to become a data analyst.

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S stands for skills, and that's

one third of the equation.

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But it's only one third of the equation.

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You need the P and the N.

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The P stands for projects or portfolios.

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And these are basically opportunities

for you to showcase your skills because

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anyone can say that they know SQL, but

you want to back that up with tangible

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evidence to a recruiter or hiring

manager via project on your portfolio.

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The N stands for networking and

really like 70 percent of jobs

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are done through networking.

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You're really getting

recruited or referred.

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And so there's a lot of different

ways you can network and a lot of

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different things that you can do to

increase your chance of getting hired.

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That is totally irrelevant and

not even related to your skills.

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There is no correlation to how skilled you

are, how quickly you land a data job, and

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how much you get paid as a data analyst.

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If you want to learn more about

the SVN method, I'll have a link

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in the show notes down below.

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Lie number five is that AI

is going to take your job.

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It's really interesting because

a lot of people are nervous about

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becoming a data analyst because they

don't feel like it's very AI proof.

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And one thing I've been

thinking to myself is Okay.

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Well, what careers are AI proof?

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In fact, I had one perspective student.

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He was messaging me and saying that his

friend was kind of making fun of him

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because like data analysts are going

to be replaced by AI and he had like a

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blue collar, more like mechanical job.

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And that was never going

to be replaced by AI.

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I think that's interesting because

like throughout history, haven't

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we seen like more of the mechanical

jobs being replaced by AI?

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previously.

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So like, I think those jobs aren't safe.

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And then I thought, oh, maybe

like a doctor that I was like,

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well, aren't like a bunch of like

robots doing surgeries nowadays.

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And like, can't you just kind of like

use web MD or whatever chat, GBT to like

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ask what's wrong and get a diagnosis.

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Obviously there's going to be some

jobs like nurses, for example,

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where I think that is basically

impossible to have a robot or AI do.

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But honestly, I've used AI

to try to analyze data and

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it's definitely not great.

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Another thing you should realize

is the difference between

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augmentation and automation using AI.

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Augmentation is almost like you can

think of it like putting on like the

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like glove in Iron Man or something?

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I don't know.

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I'm not good at Marvel, you guys.

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Uh, like, like the Infinity

Stones in that one movie, right?

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Like, that changes who you

can be and the powers that you

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have, but you're still yourself.

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And then the other one would be like,

no, I create a robot that's super

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powerful and it replaces me completely.

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And honestly, AI is going to augment you.

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That's for sure.

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It's going to change how work is done.

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But it's still you doing

the work a lot of the time.

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I've seen a lot of these companies

try to come out with like the auto

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analyzing data and it's not great so far.

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Is it going to get better in the future?

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Yes, definitely.

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But I definitely don't see

the human element getting

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taken out of it anytime soon.

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The ability to reason to actually find

like what's relevant to the business and

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then explain all that back to someone I

think is something that's very valuable.

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I'm a data analyst, right?

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I teach people how to

become data analysts.

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So my future is very heavily

tied in this and I honestly

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am not that worried about it.

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I think that, AI is going to

help us be better data analysts,

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and that's about the gist of it.

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So lie number five is that

AI is going to take your job.

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Lie number six is that you're

going to spend 80 percent of

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your time cleaning your data.

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I don't know where this came from, and

I don't know who made it, and I don't

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really know who propagates it further.

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Personally, in the roles that I've been

in, sure, data cleaning is important,

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and it does take a significant amount

of time, but it's nowhere close to 80%.

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Honestly, if you're spending 80 percent of

your time cleaning data, You're probably

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spending your time on the wrong things.

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I honestly think that like 80 percent

of your time should be spent talking

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to people as a data analyst before

you start a project, when you're in

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the project and after the project,

I think communication is actually

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way underplayed in the data world.

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But I don't know who's saying

that 80 percent of your time is

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cleaning data because that's.

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A huge exaggeration.

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Data lie number seven is all data

titles, uh, and I'm just so sorry

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for all you job seekers out there.

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This is the most frustrating thing

on planet earth, but once again,

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the data world is the wild wild west

and basically job titles are all

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kind of made up in the data world.

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There's kind of like the big three.

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There's the data engineer, the data

analyst, and the data scientist.

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But there's so many more positions in

between that overlap and that are the

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same and that are misclassified and

companies will call something, you know,

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a data analyst one place, but that's

really a data scientist other places.

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And it's really confusing.

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So all the data titles you're reading

on the job board are probably lies.

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And you should try to base it off of

what's like in the requirements section

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of the job description to actually

know what the job is going to entail

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and what the actual title kind of is.

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For instance, there's something

called a data science analyst.

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I don't know what the heck that is.

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I've even seen data analytics scientist.

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Technically, my role at Exxon for a long

time was optimization engineer, but I was

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really doing the work of a data scientist.

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And even at my first job, I was

technically a data analyst, but you could

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have also called me a chemometrician.

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There's so many different titles.

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They're so confusing.

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Honestly, I've CEO reach out to me

one time and ask me to look over.

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Their job description for

hiring their first data analyst.

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I looked it over and I was

like, this is a data scientist

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job, not a data analyst job.

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And he replied, well,

what's the difference.

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And this is like, not

a super small company.

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Like this is definitely a

company you've heard of before.

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I guess it was technically like

a general manager, not the CEO.

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It was like the president of a

local area anyways, but still

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like that is pretty crazy.

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Right.

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The people who are writing these job

descriptions maybe don't necessarily know.

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a hundred percent what

they're talking about.

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Lie number eight is that

there is lots of remote jobs.

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And now this one's super interesting

because anecdotally, it does feel

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like there is a lot of remote jobs.

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Most of my friends who work in

data have pretty flexible schedules

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and lives for the most part.

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And most of my students in my

program get pretty flexible jobs.

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But when I went and actually

did the research myself and I

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started web scraping job listings.

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I found that remote jobs only make

about 16 percent of all the jobs on

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the market, meaning the other jobs, the

remaining 85 percent ish are not remote.

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And obviously most of you guys watching

probably are interested in a remote job.

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So let's say that 95 percent of

people are interested in a remote job.

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That means there's a demand 95

percent for a low supply of 15 percent

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of jobs that are actually remote.

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And this is one of the reasons why the

job market is so crazy right now and

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really frustrating and it feels like

it's impossible to land a day job.

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The truth is there's just not as many

remote jobs as you may think there

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is, but there's actually equally

the same amount of hybrid jobs.

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So there's about 15 to 16 percent of

jobs in the market that are hybrid.

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And the cool thing about hybrid jobs

is it's on a spectrum of being in

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the office and working from home, and

every hybrid job is somewhere on that

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spectrum, but in different places.

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Some of my students work from the

office four times a week and then

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work remotely one day of the week.

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Sometimes it's reversed.

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Like for instance, some of my students

who work at Humana, they work from

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home four days a week and they

work in the office one day a week.

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I even have one student who is

hybrid, but she's only required to

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go in the office once a quarter.

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Now, to me that's more remote

than it is hybrid, but it

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was still labeled as hybrid.

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So I think the biggest play and

what you guys should be focusing

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on right now is hybrid jobs.

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Lie number nine is the self taught data

analyst or the self taught data scientist.

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So many people will say I'm self taught.

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And first off, what the

heck does that even mean?

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Like you're learning from somewhere.

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It's not like you just like went

out into your yard and like really

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thought hard and you're like, Oh, yes.

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What if I like Excel and Vlookups would

make a lot of sense in a pivot table?

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Yes.

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Oh, and joins and SQL.

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That makes a lot like you're not just

like divinely absorbing this knowledge.

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You're learning from somewhere,

whether it's a book, whether

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it's online, so on and so forth.

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I think most people say self taught

because they maybe don't have a

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formal degree or something like that.

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I would consider myself.

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Self taught, but I eventually

got a master's degree in

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data analytics in college.

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I took statistics classes that

got me really interested in data.

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I had a really good

mentor at my first job.

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He taught me a lot.

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So I think the concept of, I want to be a

self taught data analyst is kind of silly.

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It's also like, you don't get sent

a trophy for being a self taught

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data analyst, like who cares

if you're self taught or not?

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Like you don't get to wear like a badge.

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It's like, Oh wow.

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Like she's self taught.

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He's self taught like

now, like it's okay to be.

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You know, not self taught like

that's totally acceptable.

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And honestly, maybe you should

wear that as a badge of honor.

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It's like, no, I didn't do this

on my own because I knew I needed

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help or I wanted to do this faster.

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So I sought help like there's

nothing wrong with that.

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That's plenty cool as doing it yourself.

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So there you have it.

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The nine biggest lies of becoming a

data analyst and landing a data job.

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Are there any myths that I missed?

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Put them in the comments down below and

I'll try to respond to every comment.

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Avery Smith

Avery Smith is the host of The Data Career Podcast & founder of Data Career Jumpstart, an online platform dedicated to helping individuals transition into and advance within the data analytics field. After studying chemical engineering in college, Avery pivoted his career into data, and later earned a Masters in Data Analytics from Georgia Tech. He’s worked as a data analyst, data engineer, and data scientist for companies like Vaporsens, ExxonMobil, Harley Davidson, MIT, and the Utah Jazz. Avery lives in the mountains of Utah where he enjoys running, skiing, & hiking with his wife, dog, and new born baby.